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Postby Mercury » 06 Feb 2007, 07:34

Confessions of a Serial Killer (1985) is on Zone Horror next Monday. Prism unfortunately submitted a heavily cut version to the BBFC in 2002 and it was rated 15. Shame as it's an excellent film. I have never seen the uncut version but I do know what most of the cuts are. Based on the story of Henry Lee Lucas. Wonder what version Zone will show?
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Postby Mark Meakin » 06 Feb 2007, 09:46

I will check it out and give you the running time Mercury if possible.I have never seen this.Batman Returns (my personal favourite of the series) is on usually on TCM I assume uncut ?.I taped the Spartan Gladiators (1964) off TCM an early film of Alberto "Holocaust 2000"De Martino.It was uncut and contained a horsefall that would be cut here and there is a scene near the climax which may be cut,where a chariot is driven into marshland,and the distressed horses are struggling to escape, falling on each other in the process.
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Postby Mark Meakin » 06 Feb 2007, 09:57

Mercury,I,ve just looked on the Zone Horror website and unfortunately it's rated 15 the version of Confessions of....they are showing :( .I may still give it a go.It's a shame they insist on early evening (8.30 p.m) screenings of censored Tales From The Crypt episodes .I have the german dvd set which unfortunately has some of my favourite episodes "Black Carrion" for one in dubbed German only (although it was still good value for the undubbed episodes).I may get the US versions soon as I do not think they are region coded from Warner.(not that it matters much anyway)
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Postby stevethecensorshipexpert » 06 Feb 2007, 14:12

The UK version of Confessions of a Serial Killer is a silly US TV version missing all the swearing, nudity and violence. Even references to homosexuality are cut out. The film is missing over 10 minutes of footage.
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Postby Mercury » 06 Feb 2007, 17:13

Oh thanks Steve I was wondering what version it was. 10m eh? That's a lot :shock: Didn't realise it was missing so much...swearing as well. Yes I thought it was strange there was no swearing in the UK version. Anyway I still think the cut version is still a pretty good film...chilling and extremely tense! With some excellent performances. As to what I would think of the uncut version remains to be seen.

Mark, reading through an old issue of Is it Uncut? The largest cut appears to be to the home invasion scene at 32m where Henry (called Daniel Ray Hawkins here) and Moon gain entry to a woman's home on the pre text of fixing her air conditioning. This is where the woman is seriously brutalised. In the cut version however every last glimpse of her ordeal has been removed. Actually I thought it was rather silly the way the woman let these strange men into her home late at night and without showing any proof of ID. Oh well these things do happen. Also the scene at 80m where Molly stabs Doris to death. In the cut version it's difficult to tell that she is even being stabbed thanks to the cuts. Obviously there a lot more cuts but those are 2 important ones I thought worth mentioning.

Hopefull we will see the full version one day over here. Is is Uncut? describe the film uncut as being quite shocking. The cut version however is fairly mild.
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Postby Mercury » 07 Feb 2007, 07:39

The British horror thriller The Fiend (1971) is on BBC2 next sunday. The film was heavily cut by the BBFC for the X rating on its cinema release. (Cuts on the IMDb). According to reports BBC2 did show the full version several years ago although when it went out on BBC1 more recently it was unfortunately the cut version. Think I'll watch just in case since it's now on BBC2 again.

Anyone here catch the uncut version?

AB UK were going to release the film on DVD but sadly it didn't quite happen because the full version was proving to be elusive.

Just prior to this on the same channel...BBC2 are repeating The American Nightmare documentary. This was cut by the BBFC when submitted in 2003 because it contained cut scenes from Last House on the Left eg the forced urination and chest carving. Even so last time this went out on BBC2 it was supposedly the uncut version, although when I compared it to the cut American Nightmare disc that comes with The Hiils Have Eyes (77) DVD it seemed only partially uncut ie the chest carving was indeed there but the other cut mentioned was nowhere to be seen. Just thought it was a bit odd.
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Postby Mark Meakin » 07 Feb 2007, 11:04

Thanks for cuts info guys will check.I will tape The Fiend too,but what a ridiculous time it's on.Will BBC 1 cut The Long Riders (1980) ?.if so it will be a first as the 4 second horsefall is usually left intact on BBC 2 even though they cut Ulzanas Raid & Chatos Land now.By the way Zone Thriller screened Freeway uncut with a shot of the C**k Sucking Toddlers porn magazine intact & a shot of Reese Witherspoons dead topless gran with a rope around her neck.VERY over the top film !.
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Postby Mercury » 07 Feb 2007, 14:54

Matthew Bright who directed Freeway also directed the absolutely appalling sequel - Confessions of a Trick Baby.
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Postby alexl » 07 Feb 2007, 21:50

mercury wrote:Matthew Bright who directed Freeway also directed the absolutely appalling sequel - Confessions of a Trick Baby.


I didn't think it was that bad - it works if you meet it at its own level i.e. a trashy black comedy. Suprised to see Freeway uncut even Channel 4 show the cut version.
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Postby Mercury » 08 Feb 2007, 09:55

C4 abide by the Ofcom rule book.
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Postby Movie Mad » 08 Feb 2007, 16:55

Cuts continued:
- The Mummy Returns (ITV2) at 2.05pm on 18/2/07. Maybe they'll cut it a bit more this time? (As opposed to leaving it practically uncut) Uncut the night before at 10.45pm.
- The Last Boy Scout (ITV2) at 10pm on 19/2/07. Apparently, this is cut even at that slot.
- Memoirs of an Invisible Man (Film4) at 7.05pm on 21/2/07. I expect the f-bomb to be cut. 8.05pm on Film4+1, too.
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Postby Mark Meakin » 08 Feb 2007, 18:57

Zone Horror screened Inferno (1980) with the Cat-bashing & Mouse eating scenes intact !.I thought the mouse eating cut was silly as my cat is the feline equiverlant of John Wayne Gacy but I suppose it must have been literally fed to the cat in this instance to cause censorship problems ?.The AB US print was far superior though in terms of quality but a bonus for UK fans.
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Postby alexl » 08 Feb 2007, 19:18

According to the Radio Times The Enforcer (CH4 22:30) is cut for language.
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Postby Mark Meakin » 08 Feb 2007, 19:26

Why !.I know ITV sometimes used to cut the shot of a blade embedded in a mans back and the shot of blood running from it.There are very few F words in the film.
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Postby Mercury » 08 Feb 2007, 19:41

Thanks Mark for the Inferno confirmation. Zone Horror are supposed to comply with Ofcom's regulations. Clearly they only do so when they feel like it. The BBFC don't really have a problem with a cat chasing and eating a mouse but the scene was clearly staged for the film which is not allowed.

Surely The Enforcer will go out uncut on C4... C4 themselves will not cut the film. I don't remember the f-word in the film? I think the Radio Times must be wrong.
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