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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Markgway » 17 Dec 2008, 23:33

OK. Frankly I doubt the BBC would cut Cliffhanger either now.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby GavSalkeld » 17 Dec 2008, 23:35

They havent. Its been on before uncut.

However, the BBC are looking to reduce swearing across their output in the near future, so we could well be going back to the old BBC cut version. They always did a good job though.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby HunterBFH » 17 Dec 2008, 23:48

Oh yes! Funny you should mention it! That ITV director Michael Gamdon (or whatever his name is) said he wants all the swearing cut out from films and TV shows! Which planet is he on?! :?
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby laggylad » 18 Dec 2008, 09:32

How is that going to work for films like Casino?
I will be down there screaming up at you!
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Mercury » 18 Dec 2008, 10:06

I doubt they will ever go back to the days when all swearing was cut from films even ones shown late at night. They used to do this in the 70's and early 80's. It's a waste of time, most people use this language every day of their lives.

I can't believe they are still complaining about language in this day and age. I don't actually like swearing either but it's just part of the way the world is today, you just have to live with it.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby m35541 » 18 Dec 2008, 10:31

I agree mercury. The BBC apparently used to have a policy that every F word had to be signed-off and justified and they would only allow them if it was - so for example it was allowed in All the President's Men because that was a true story but would be cut from a routine action film. They have long abandoned this policy.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby HunterBFH » 18 Dec 2008, 14:15

When I was checking to esnsure the subtitles working fine on my recording disc of PD James, a novel TV serial - Death Of An Expert Witness which was showing on ITV3 a few months ago. They CUT a small language out but the swearing is ALREADY in the subtitles quoting "that BLOODY Lortimer"! and wasn't happy with what they have had done there! It left the subtitles resuming..2 seconds FORWARD AFTER they spoken, because of it! I will have to catch that again next time when they repeat! oh and as well the two last episodes of The Black Tower, another PD James novel TV serial, because they BLOODY dropped them due to (I think) a nasty scene that they wouldn't screen in early hours! They changed that to Sherlock Holmes TV serial! Grrr... :x
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Jim » 23 Dec 2008, 14:27

The c word was used twice(once agressively by jason Statham-funnily enough it was the aggresive use of this word in One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest that led it to be still rated an 18) or so in the excellent film The Bank Job and that was rated only a 15!
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Markgway » 24 Dec 2008, 00:20

The BBFC are NOT inconsistant!
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Movie Mad » 24 Dec 2008, 15:42

GavSalkeld wrote:They havent. Its been on before uncut.

However, the BBC are looking to reduce swearing across their output in the near future, so we could well be going back to the old BBC cut version. They always did a good job though.

Could this be a ridiculous overreaction to the Brand/Ross incident?

Cutting swearing out of films is completely pointless. Particularly since DVDs are so cheap these days that everyone would notice the trims. I recall there was a mob of complaints when BBC1 screened a heavily cut version of Se7en at 9pm once.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby GavSalkeld » 24 Dec 2008, 15:47

Thats exactly what its in response to, yeah. Shocking isnt it?
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Markgway » 24 Dec 2008, 20:03

I think the BBC are more likely to cut down on swearing in their own programmes. Particularly shows that might have a broader appeal. Can't see them going back to cutting strong language from films screened post-watershed. Most people prefer films to be uncut and don't equate them and their content with regular programmes.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby GavSalkeld » 24 Dec 2008, 20:06

I guess, but any complaints about a film shown on BBC is still gonna fall at the BBC's feet.

What makes you say people prefer films uncut, are you speaking just for us on the forum or do you know that to be a fact?
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby Markgway » 26 Dec 2008, 06:10

Because comaplaints about swearing on TV (or complaints in general) have virtually always been directed at home-produced programmes (like soaps for example).

Usually if complaints are made about a film it's because it's either been cut or shown in an inappropriate timeslot. I think viewers expect feature films to be stronger in content. I know I do.
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Re: Die Hard with a vengeance Question

Postby GavSalkeld » 20 Jan 2009, 17:03

Thats not true, its the same version as before. Check the running times for one.
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